Thursday, December 31, 2009

LDS can you give me advice, Are catholics here saying they believe the godhead is the same as our belief

I'm confused


http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=258822LDS can you give me advice, Are catholics here saying they believe the godhead is the same as our belief
I just never understood how God would be the 'source' of the confusion - imho, it must be fallen [or mortal] man who contributes to the confusion regarding God. Everytime He makes statements to the prophets, it seems rather clear. I mean - where do the scriptures say 'huh, say that again? i don't get it'LDS can you give me advice, Are catholics here saying they believe the godhead is the same as our belief
I think a lot of people don't really understand what they believe in their religion. I know very devout Cathlics, and they definetly don't see it in the same way that we do (by church doctrine). But I have known many people, not just catholics, that think of the Godhead the same way we do, and don't realize they believe differently than their own religion.
By calling it a mystery, they admit that the language they are using to describe the members of the godhead convey very little meaningful information - except that what appear to be incongruities are somehow compatible in a mysterious unknown way.


Falism, you aren't going to make any friends by pointing out the weaknesses in their religion on their own website. If you successfully call into question their faith in their beliefs, they won't automatically decide to become Mormons. It is more likely that they would lose their faith in God altogether. If nothing in Mormonism sparks a mild interest, then there isn't much more we can do. If you make it a challange to their honor, they will not come to us even when they do have a mild interest. It does not benefit us or them to have an adversarial relationship.
I did not get that they were telling you that. They were trying to explain the mystery of God. Their explanation of being created in His image was quite interesting, I had never heard that before.





I still am not clear on the Trinity and I doubt I will ever understand it, but like someone on that forum said, they don't believe that we are supposed to understand God.





I guess it comes down to this. We are taught that plain and precious truths were taken from the bible. Plain is a key word, that tells me that these things were easy to understand. When these things were removed from the bible, it made many things harder to understand and you are left to try and interpret it all on your own. We have modern day revelation to show us the way and help us to understand scripture. Without that modern day revelation and authority to act in God's name, you can see how the variations have occurred over the years.






That is a very long forum and I didn't read all the way through it. The current Catholic doctrine follows the Nicene Creed in that they believe in the Trinity. Prior to the Council of Nice there were differing opinions among the various bishops on the nature of God and the Godhead and yes, there were bishops who believed the same as current LDS doctrine, that God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost are three separate entities. The LDS didn't ';make up'; that doctrine, it existed in the early Church.
The catholic, eastern orthodox, and most protestant church especially evangelical ones subscribe to the nicene creed which states that God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are one in substance and/or essence...meaning as J.S. says a big three headed monster.


Meaning also we aren't made in God's image, making man and God different species.
I don't know: Do Mormons believe in the Trinity as three persons in one God? That second person who answered you on that site obviously isn't a Catholic or s/he wouldn't say that the council simply voted on it without praying for it. A vote doesn't necessarily mean there wasn't any prayer. And it doesn't necessarily mean that they didn't all agree with it the decision, either.





As for resurrected bodies....we DO believe that one day our bodies will be resurrected as Jesus, but we believe that we won't be reunited with our earthly bodies until Jesus reestablishes his kingdom on earth.





I hope that clears it up.
Catholics believe in the trinity, which is the Father and Christ and the Holy Ghost as one literal being with separate responsibilities and We believe that they are Separate beings with separate responsibilities but one in purpose. so their beliefs are different than ours.
No, it is different.





They say they are ';distinct'; from each other - but not separate.








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